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Why Hamilton Going Off Track 29 Times Was LEGAL

Track limits was a huge talking point after the 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix. Why was Hamilton not penalised for extending turn 4? Why was Max Verstappen told to give the position back after overtaking?
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  1. Turtle.

    Turtle.

    Πριν 4 ώρες

    RBR Radio - "We see Hamilton extending his exit from Lap 4" Verstappen -"Copy" Few laps later Hamilton Radio - "We received a warning from stewards not to go off the track in Turn 4 exit [after at least 25 of those happening already] So to avoid chaos and everyone just driving wide there, they were about to change their stance on it mid-race.

  2. Black Panther

    Black Panther

    Πριν 18 ώρες

    Haters going to hate, no confusion Hamilton 1st, Verstappen 1st loser

  3. rob B

    rob B

    Πριν 21 ώρα

    Ok what a stupid discussion. You go out the track to overtake --> fault. That´s it. No discussion needed here.

  4. Papa Troll

    Papa Troll

    Πριν 22 ώρες

    Could you have at least shown a single example? Would've made this vid much better and much more of what was expected.

  5. Gabo Cejitas

    Gabo Cejitas

    Πριν ημέρα

    Idk, maybe because he's black and they don't wanna be accused of being racist

  6. Roflcopter Ausdertiefe

    Roflcopter Ausdertiefe

    Πριν 2 ημέρες

    there is a white line for a reason. f1 nowadays is a yoke!

  7. Sabharinath Bala

    Sabharinath Bala

    Πριν 2 ημέρες

    FIA says ‘Yeah Nah’ to exceeding track limits on turn 4! Gotta be Aussie!!! 😜

  8. Gab Albano

    Gab Albano

    Πριν 2 ημέρες

    To those saying cutting turn 4 gave him a lasting advantage by cutting down his lap times, every one else could’ve done it. Hamilton was just smart enough to do it while the others didn’t.

  9. Smokey Yunick

    Smokey Yunick

    Πριν 2 ημέρες

    It seems like the FIA makes it so LH wins like at Bahrain they made max let Lewis by for the win on the last lap when max was gonna win I think the FIA is in Mercs pocket if you know what I mean

  10. Can Türkdoğanın Ayak Başparmağı

    Can Türkdoğanın Ayak Başparmağı

    Πριν 3 ημέρες

    This was an undeserved win for hamilton

  11. Afif Shah Sadip Seven

    Afif Shah Sadip Seven

    Πριν 3 ημέρες

    MaFiA

  12. Edwin Nobbs

    Edwin Nobbs

    Πριν 3 ημέρες

    Why is it even a debate at any point of a race weekend??!!!! The track is the track!!!!!

  13. faffdag

    faffdag

    Πριν 4 ημέρες

    Very annoying footage, show the clips

  14. Victor Timoftii

    Victor Timoftii

    Πριν 4 ημέρες

    You can get out of the track when you are racing on your own, you cannot do overtakes this way. It was always like that.

  15. chileshe chamululu

    chileshe chamululu

    Πριν 4 ημέρες

    If the pass was fair verstappen would have passed him again.

  16. JohnJaggerJack

    JohnJaggerJack

    Πριν 5 ημέρες

    What i have to say to FIA is. "Keep being biased little pricks and lets see how long until everybody loses interest in this sport"

  17. Sanchit

    Sanchit

    Πριν 5 ημέρες

    Great. He just defended another Mercedes Politics

  18. fablewalls

    fablewalls

    Πριν 5 ημέρες

    The argument about track limits is being kept alive by unhappy Max fans. Overtaking while off track has never been OK, pure and simple. Red Bull would be well within their rights to have complained about the overtake if overtaking off track was OK and no - Max was not pushed off track, he simply carried too much speed into the corner.

  19. Michael Elkorr

    Michael Elkorr

    Πριν 5 ημέρες

    Way too many memes. 1 or 2 is funny but not 30

  20. Isaac Tourand

    Isaac Tourand

    Πριν 5 ημέρες

    In this specific case, everyone technically followed the rules layed out for the race. However moving forward I don't see how the FIA thinks the additional time Hamilton gained by going off isn't a lasting advantage. It could have closed the gap just enough for Verstappen to strike. Especially in a sport of 10ths of seconds

  21. ??

    ??

    Πριν 6 ημέρες

    If the FIA said that track limits would now be moved to the gravel instead of the kerb. Max's overtake shouldn't be illegal. Even if that wasn't the case max shouldn't have been given a penalty. Because he overtook hamilton on track and then extended. Basically exploiting the same rule as hamilton. And if all of the above isn't true why wasn't hamilton given a penalty for overtaking sainz after 1st stop? He basically did the same thing as max. Overtaking sainz (but this time on the inside) and then extending. Same thing as max. Not penalised. Absolute shitshow this weekend.

  22. Orella Minx

    Orella Minx

    Πριν 6 ημέρες

    Once a cheater, always a cheater. Gotta protect their token black driver, FIA has gone full woke.

  23. mikeboy0001

    mikeboy0001

    Πριν 7 ημέρες

    New F1 management should look Over complicated rules usually mean stupid rules

  24. P 4 PUTSHO Ps4,mobile

    P 4 PUTSHO Ps4,mobile

    Πριν 7 ημέρες

    Nothing is fair in formula 1 .... Comparing to MotoGP . I stop watching all those F1 races . Moto gp is way better ..

  25. ASHXMED GHXST

    ASHXMED GHXST

    Πριν 8 ημέρες

    The funniest part about the ehole situation is lewis has always played dirty since day one pace car drivers dont even like him. Its bull shit the only reason hes able to get away with it is bc Mercedes has so much more money into the sport the redbull mostly in unknown places in unknown pockets

  26. timmy le

    timmy le

    Πριν 8 ημέρες

    They should leave it to where you can’t OVERTAKE with all four off the track

  27. The Fizzlee NL

    The Fizzlee NL

    Πριν 9 ημέρες

    Verstappen was in the wrong for passing there but Hamilton should have gotten a 5sec penalty which would have put max at #1 so than it wouldn't really matter that the overtake was invalid but it ruined the race for me, by cutting the corner lewis was able to creep in front of max he otherwise would have won with over 10sec gap if you look at the times, he was so much faster but due to Hamiltons aggressive defense and dirty air ruining the downforce on the rb wasn't able to pass properly

    • ??

      ??

      Πριν 6 ημέρες

      Well technically max overtook hamilton on track and then he went off. (Basically exploiting the same thing as lewis) but the fia deemed that overtake illegal but hamilton did the exact same thing as max (only he was on the inside) by overtaking sainz after his 1st stop. All 4 wheels of the track

  28. tomcatkzn

    tomcatkzn

    Πριν 9 ημέρες

    If you go off track on a street circuit you hit the wall. The track limits on a normal track should be regarded with the same respect. If you put 2 wheels off the track anywhere, you should get a penalty.

  29. randar1969

    randar1969

    Πριν 9 ημέρες

    If it's legal to use track limits on turn 4, why then was there a warning when RBR told max to do the same? We can argue if he used track limits during overtake which isn't allowed all day. (I think he was already past Ham) But it's odd that the FIA only said no after RBR send an message to Max before any overtake.

  30. MisterMeister

    MisterMeister

    Πριν 9 ημέρες

    BECAUSE BLACK LIVES MATTER!!! ✊✊✊

  31. Antonio Gata Luzia

    Antonio Gata Luzia

    Πριν 10 ημέρες

    I bet you all that if it was Vettel driving the MB he would have been penalized for sure. British members of the race comité and others have been supporting, unfairly most of the time, LH. It is clear for F1 supporters that we are back at almost JMB (Jean Marie Ballestre) "golden era". Guys don't spoil F1 plz

  32. Khalid Hasan

    Khalid Hasan

    Πριν 10 ημέρες

    The rules were clear as corroborated by other drivers and teams. VB was doing the same. Red Bull hadn’t understood the directives from Massi - criticise anything the it would be shifting stance here between FP and the race. MercF1 completely within the rules and clearly MV off track for the pass.... like on Kimi in Austin on last lap. FWIW- these race directors notes on these things are a nonsense. IMHO, track limits everywhere should be the white line. Technology should be used to deny use of ERS on following lap (or automatic 5s penalty with room for more depending on intent/circumstance). We have all forgotten how MSc served a pit plane penalty deliberately on last lap where his car crossed the finish line to get to Ferrari box. Drivers like MV saying he will opt for 5s penalty also needs to be clamped on; though I suspect FIA would have applied something more if had shown decent. Also, ALL FIA in race communications to teams need to be for all to see. Just stokes the flames of manipulation and favour. All teams will push rules to limits, and limits need to be fixed and observable.

  33. Charlie

    Charlie

    Πριν 10 ημέρες

    It is black and white. It really is. Not sure what they're going on about here?

  34. Isaac villy

    Isaac villy

    Πριν 10 ημέρες

    When max started doing the same they changed the rules mid race. Seems every race the fia can’t decide what’s going on.

  35. 藍戰士Kit Kit Chan Isaac

    藍戰士Kit Kit Chan Isaac

    Πριν 10 ημέρες

    FIA when Lewis exceed track limits 29 times:i sleep FIA when Max exceed track limits 1 time only: *REAL SHIT*

  36. jimbob500e

    jimbob500e

    Πριν 11 ημέρες

    Well I was a great fan of Lewis but his blm antics stopped all that. And yes him going off the track 29 times, he should have been disqualified.

  37. HerrPoopschitz

    HerrPoopschitz

    Πριν 11 ημέρες

    The current rules arent overly complex. Maybe Nascar is more your speed?

  38. Slayer 96 DA 2ND

    Slayer 96 DA 2ND

    Πριν 12 ημέρες

    Which sport would you rather watch? Football(soccer): AAAAAAHHHH MY KNEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! or Race cars: going off track and off the camera

  39. Spencer Rollins

    Spencer Rollins

    Πριν 12 ημέρες

    Honestly, it’s not even that Lewis won. This video is the first one I’ve watched about this that actually touched on what the problem was. The FIA/F1 needs to make things black and white and quit switching things up. Verstappen overtaking Hamilton isn’t what’s being questioned. Max was obviously off the track and had not completed the overtake. That’s fine. The problem is that from P1-Q3, they were being extremely strict about track limits on turn 4. What nobody is talking about is that Perez had a great lap time deleted in Q2 because of it and that left him out of Q3, so he got shafted too. Then, the rules are changed literally right before the race, and Hamilton takes advantage of the extra play on exit. At times, Hamilton’s car wasn’t even close to even the curbs because he was so far off-track. He did this 29 times. Even if that gained Hamilton .1th/lap, that’s obviously 2.9 seconds conservatively that Verstappen lost. That seems like a lasting advantage to me. Now here’s the BIG problem. Literally two laps after Verstappen was told to start abusing track limits on turn 4, the FIA immediately put an end to it, so Verstappen had no chance to recoup any of that lost time. It looks horrible on the sport and this is why new fans leave. Everyone in the media is glancing over it because Hamilton’s the poster kid, but it’s not okay. And to those saying “everyone else was doing it too”, no. They weren’t. I have F1TV and went back to watch everyone’s onboard cameras and Hamilton/Bottas were literally the only ones doing it, with a couple drivers doing it once or twice because of a snap of oversteer or understeer, but it wasn’t intentional like with Mercedes. I’m a George Russell fan. I started watching F1/F2 in 2018 because of an outreach program he did and watched him in F2. So I really don’t care who wins between Verstappen and Hamilton. What I do care about is the sport, it’s health, and ensuring that things are equitable (haha). What happened was not okay at all. Verstappen got the short end of the stick and I just have a feeling that won’t be the last time this year.

  40. Vinnie Murk

    Vinnie Murk

    Πριν 12 ημέρες

    2020 fans: The stewards are trying everything to bring Mercedes down! 2021 fans: the stewards are doing everything to help Mercedes win!

  41. gabriel martinez

    gabriel martinez

    Πριν 12 ημέρες

    Sounds like they just want Mercedes to keep winning...

  42. Kristóf Kovács

    Kristóf Kovács

    Πριν 12 ημέρες

    So then my personal opinion: Hamilton did deserve a penalty, and Verstappen's pass wasn't fair. Anyway if it's not the case, the second is: no penalty and the pass was fair. An advice for anyone: If the race makes you frustrated, angry, just stop watching. I know people who watch "everything" and are usually angry for no reason.

  43. Jon McDonald

    Jon McDonald

    Πριν 13 ημέρες

    if you can extend a track limit you can overtake there if you cant overtake there you cant track extend there make it simple and consistent

  44. jorkusmalorkus

    jorkusmalorkus

    Πριν 13 ημέρες

    it wouldn't be F1 if the governing body wasn't constantly changing and unevenly applying the rules

  45. Louis

    Louis

    Πριν 13 ημέρες

    So if there are not in a close fight they can basically drive everywhere they want?

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    Pantai Selatan

    Πριν 13 ημέρες

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  47. Paul Caldwell

    Paul Caldwell

    Πριν 13 ημέρες

    It's a Good job we don't drive like that or pedestrians would be extinct.

  48. Hakan Yilmaz

    Hakan Yilmaz

    Πριν 13 ημέρες

    Cheater Hamilton

  49. Juned Momin

    Juned Momin

    Πριν 13 ημέρες

    Hamilton should have got penalty and it should be like you said "can or can't". Also, what about Hamilton forcing Verstappen to go off track

  50. Daniel Souza

    Daniel Souza

    Πριν 13 ημέρες

    Get in there Lewis 🏂

  51. captainsuds1

    captainsuds1

    Πριν 14 ημέρες

    F1 little black token take a penalty?

  52. Plamen Stoyanov

    Plamen Stoyanov

    Πριν 14 ημέρες

    No matter what is allowed through the weekend or certain tracks, there is ONE rule that rule them all and that is "Your are NOT allowed to overtake with your 4 tyres outside of the track. Never. Never." That's why Hamilton gets his position back and it is legal. It doesn't matter if he did the same 39 times before in the race because he didn't overtake anybody when he exceeds the limits.

  53. jayson0987

    jayson0987

    Πριν 14 ημέρες

    Legal as long as your names Lewis (FIA) hamilton

  54. miserablecherry

    miserablecherry

    Πριν 14 ημέρες

    did an alpine do an overtake off track limits at turn 4 and no one was talking about it???

  55. Mark Katheravan

    Mark Katheravan

    Πριν 14 ημέρες

    Just follow what the stewards instruct during each race. No use making calculations about how much of an advantage a driver will make. The games are governed by the stewards. My question if Max did not drive out of the boundary would it be possible he could've overtaken Ham in the next few laps?

  56. Timur

    Timur

    Πριν 14 ημέρες

    But didn't Max overtake Lewis before going off track or does that not count as an overtake?

  57. gerrit willem van hemert

    gerrit willem van hemert

    Πριν 14 ημέρες

    There is also corruption even in the FIA!!! When Max had to give his position away Hamilton needs also a penalty for doing so 29 times!!! Period...........

  58. G-Raf Creations

    G-Raf Creations

    Πριν 14 ημέρες

    Its legal because FIA stupid rules!

  59. Justin Thomas

    Justin Thomas

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    So basically Hamilton did what every driver should have done?

  60. ronanmtba

    ronanmtba

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    The ultimate solution: grass, gravel and wall. And about the actual rule: if you have all the space, you can exceed it, if you are sharing it with another car, you can't. Does it even make sense?

  61. VICIOUS VNDTA

    VICIOUS VNDTA

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Max should have won this 10000%

  62. A H

    A H

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    FIAMG gotta help mercedes at all cost

  63. Spetsop

    Spetsop

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Hamilton thinks he's special, that's it... And his fan boys are happy to close their eyes on anything he does that gets him any advantage, but complain (just like him) if someone else does the same thing!

  64. Rad Wagonn

    Rad Wagonn

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    this is facts. Nothing else about it.

  65. DepleuerAct3004

    DepleuerAct3004

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    hamilton just purpis full pushed max wide, too regaine his lost position shit move from a shit driver...

  66. M. Furniss

    M. Furniss

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    The point is it should have been illegal or legal through out the whole race. The Stewart’s determining the it was illegal more than half way through the race showed how unprofessional it was.

  67. Balazs Villanyi

    Balazs Villanyi

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Were they smoking something at race control, during the whole weekend? Anyway, nobody should be mad at Lewis. Drivers should use any advantage they can, and it was legal after all.

    • ??

      ??

      Πριν 6 ημέρες

      Yes. But if you can extend there you should also be able to overtake there.

  68. André Ferreira

    André Ferreira

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Corrida incrível, estragada pelo regulamento + diretor de prova. Verstapen won

  69. Allen Blumhägen

    Allen Blumhägen

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    It's not this being legal that was the issue, the issue is that the fia then changed the rules during the race and not waited afterwards.

  70. thexitto

    thexitto

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    I think the rules are clear and fair. It´s important not to be completely rigid with track limits because there´s so many incidents that will need flexibility and oblige drivers to escape to outside limits.. In this race, drivers could use turn 4 outside limits, but like general rules apply: "not to gain advantage".. that´s what happened with Ham, when he was starting to gain advantage was told to stop.. and he stopped at that moment. Max overtake was outrageously outlaw.

  71. pen_BERRIES

    pen_BERRIES

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Because the fia wants hamilton to win

  72. Nguyen Duc Hung

    Nguyen Duc Hung

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Extend the track for faster lap but not overtaking? Sure go ahead. Extend the track but overtaking? Oh ho ho, yo ass are about to get clapped.

  73. LaczPro

    LaczPro

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    For me, this is hilarious. How F1 games do a better job at this than the FIA?

  74. Raum Bances

    Raum Bances

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    It wasn't just Hamilton. Verstappen and everyone else did it as well. The only racer to try to overtake outside of the lines was Verstappen. None of the people complaining seem to remember that. Turn 4 was proving to be dangerous. Even someone who does not understand the rules can look at turn 4 and see all the skid marks from loss of traction during practice and qualifications. FIA made a ruling so we didn't have to watch a yellow flag race. But they did tell everyone. ALL DRIVERS went outside the line. Verstappen tried to pass. Get over it.

  75. Top Gun

    Top Gun

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    The things are very simple there's a track and white lines that are the limit of this track, if you exceed ( with all the car ) the white lines you are simply out of track and you get a penalty, either you want to overtake or just lapping .

  76. George Lucas

    George Lucas

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    In a race, every second is all about gaining an advantage.....

  77. Armand van Geijlswijk

    Armand van Geijlswijk

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Let's be mild on this one, and give HAM a 1 second penalty.

  78. Aleksst96

    Aleksst96

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Just put a gravel trap at turn 4 simple.

  79. Brijen Patel

    Brijen Patel

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    let's just say Hamilton is just stewards favorite, and nobody should beat him, because if someone does its almost like stewards hero died and now its just depressed and in its fear warning everyone who could compete

  80. Andy Glastonbury

    Andy Glastonbury

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    I cannot really comment on Hamilton, however passing another car, whilst not even on the track has never been permitted.

  81. simon p

    simon p

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Bring back gravel traps, that will stop it instantly

  82. SFV

    SFV

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    I don't think Max gained a lasting advantage by leaving the tracks during the overtake tho. If he didn't leave the track I think he would've had a bigger advantage than he had now. With the understeer (could be oversteer I already don't remember) his corner was slower than if he would've stayed on track. Staying on track would also have given him the position. So IMO, he actually lost a bit of advantage by leaving the track. But I agree, FIA should set rules for the whole weekend and especcialy just sticking to the f'ing track limits

  83. Gavin Isaacs

    Gavin Isaacs

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Max’s inexperience was evident , fast driving and intelligent driving are two different concepts- he was just up against the most gifted and complete driver in F1 history . The race was a lesson from Lewis to Max ! A thank you should suffice !

  84. Tom St

    Tom St

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    The rules were consistent.

  85. I'm Rnkxi

    I'm Rnkxi

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Racing has always been about finding loopholes in the rules so I don’t really think Hamilton did anything wrong

  86. vonPelger

    vonPelger

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    This inconsistancy is toxic. So if the ideal line in the corner is off track like in turn 4 but you cant overtake offtrack that means that they cant overtake on the ideal line. This is idiotic. Ham deserves the penalty or Max should have been allowed to keep that overtake

  87. Elijah Dobkins

    Elijah Dobkins

    Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Don’t care what the rules are, 29 of tracks is absolutely not ok

  88. Jan Gajewski-Tuttle

    Jan Gajewski-Tuttle

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    wth this race was boring af

  89. Legendary JueHa

    Legendary JueHa

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    I believe that Hamilton get the advantage out of the 29 laps. If he gain 0.2 or 0.3 seconds per lap how much did he gained for 29 laps? FiA should be more serious about the track limits for every races. No any special treat for any teams or any drivers.

  90. CS Chan

    CS Chan

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    Playing by the "rules" to win, this is F1 racing. Max as good as Louis on this.

  91. P M

    P M

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    NOT

  92. OverRatedTheFirst

    OverRatedTheFirst

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    It does make sense, first it wasnt a last minute change, they say on Friday that drivers couldnt pass the limits during practice and during quali but it would be allowed on race day as long as it wasnt being used as an advantage. Also why didnt he said how many times the other drivers did this aswell and only counted Hamilton´s?

  93. Joker210SA

    Joker210SA

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    Mercedes to fia- can we extend track at turn 4 FIA- yea only if it's less then 30 times Redbull- can we do it ounce Fia- NO!

  94. Twenny

    Twenny

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    RB told max to exceed track limits on turn 4 because everyone else was doing it without getting a penalty, 1 lap later Bono tells Lewis that they got a warning for turn 4 track limits. Lewis still went off track 5-7 times after that "warning". Lewis won a lot of time on max with exceeding on turn 4 and if they actually got a warning from the FIA he should have been given a 5 second penalty. Either the FIA really hates Max/loves Lewis or they smoked a lot of crack during the race because none of this makes any sense.

  95. ¿`_

    ¿`_

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    I've been arguing this point for too long! There needs to be a change in the curbing! The big argument lies, the track is also used for motorcycle racing and to create a curb that would really cause harm to the vehicle and cause slower lap times, but could be just lifted up and then allow the motorcycles to race. A curb that could literally be bolted down that would compromise the car's suspension and this can all be done by placing the curbs at a distance apart in correspondence to the rate of speed the car travels through that corner. The curbs being a distance apart in relationship to the speed at the Curve would intensify the "bounce" and this would be problematic if one chose to cut the corner or extend outside the track on the exit.

  96. Cristian Dinu

    Cristian Dinu

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    It was legal because Hamilton is a Sir. Sirs are allowed to go off-track.

  97. Joost Wasbauer

    Joost Wasbauer

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    Did Botas get his fastest lap on using turn 4 the same way? just asking.

  98. FJ Nemo

    FJ Nemo

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    Literally LeClerc confirmed in their race notes they were allowed to do to extend and if you watch the onboards, most drivers were doing so. Idk how Red Bull lost the memo or why the FIA changed the rules halfway thru a race. This video was a bit ill-informed

  99. Chris Freeman

    Chris Freeman

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    Isn't Hamilton staying in front of Max a "lasting overall advantage". Had Hamilton been reigned in, Max would have caught him 5 laps sooner, had not burned up his tires, and probably passed him. Since he did not, Hamilton in fact had a "lasting overall advantage". Oy vai!

  100. Si Ricko

    Si Ricko

    Πριν 16 ημέρες

    Ham going off track and passing off track are 2 different things!!

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